update_messages = no setting in the /etc/yum/yum-cron.conf file all our CentOS 7.x based Vritualmin systems keep sending the following message:
Webmin install complete. You can now login to https://ns1.domain.tld:10000/
as root with your root password.
And it is so annoying when dealing with lot's of *min systems. We would really do appreciate if *-min developers started to put themselves in shoes of hosting vendors, which have to monitor root mails, but do not really have to receive so many annoying messages from Webmin. Please make the system little bit less verbose as end-users will be logging into their control panel some day and see new Webmin is installed anyway, so is there a real need to send those annoying messages?! :(
Submitted by andreychek on Mon, 01/11/2016 - 10:16 Comment #1
Howdy -- the "update_messages" parameter just tells yum-cron not to notify root that updates are available.
If you don't want it to send any messages from output during the upgrade process, it looks like setting the "emit_via" parameter to "none" will accomplish that.
Submitted by yngens on Mon, 01/11/2016 - 20:10 Comment #2
andryecheck which is Eric (I still do not understand what is the point of keeping users confused about your name too),
As a hosting vendor we simply can't miss if anything important happens, so we have to monitor root mail. The problem here is that we don't believe a message telling about that Webmin install completed is important. Especially when you are bombarded with ton's of the same message from multiple servers.
Submitted by andreychek on Mon, 01/11/2016 - 21:41 Comment #3
I'm sorry that you find my username confusing. It's just my last name. Folks are welcome to call me anything they like though, I have no preference :-)
I will discuss those messages with the team. There haven't been other concerns about that share in the past, so we've never given removing them much thought.
I'll see what they have to say though.
Submitted by yngens on Tue, 01/12/2016 - 03:24 Comment #4
You can use whatever nickname you want, however from the mere usability point of view it would be really nice to just replace it with your name, because forums and issues have number of references to Eric, but then it is really not clear for new users who the hell is Eric, where to look for his comments, having no idea he is in fact right under their noses as andreychek. It's none of my business really, but I do believe it would be nice if your team (of *-min admins) starts growing and paying attention to this kind of usability issues. Great software, but way too many disorganized matters among the team behind it...
As for the subject matter, well, if you keep orienting to the individual users then, of course, they will be silent about this kind of issues, because they never encounter massive e-mails like we do. But again, if you believe Webmin/Virtualmin/Cloudmin are also for hosting companies, then you have to start paying attention to what kind of usability issues they might be having with your software. Just imagine your e-mail box is filled with tons of the same "Webmin install complete" messages from the root mail that you can't ignore, that you have to monitor and then maybe you will see my point.
I just hope your team accepts this kind of suggestions constructively.