Infrastructure considerations

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#1 Fri, 01/02/2009 - 11:09
worel

Infrastructure considerations

Hi there!

This question is burning under my nails since weeks.

I know Plesk, Confixx and Virtualmin by now. (btw. i like virtualmin the most - gpl version yet)

Ok, what is it about? When u are a hosting provider with lets say 10.000 customers, how would you set up your infrastructure with virtualmin?

I mean there is no built in solution for active-active clustering or anything like that. Maybe active-passive, even that has to be manually configured)

  • Would you install 100 single Virtualmin Servers and put up to 100 customers on one server? (100x100 = our 10.000 customers ;-) ) To distribute the load "manually" by separating users to other servers.

  • Getting mysql and postgresql off to another system (mysql-cluster for example)

  • Establish a backup system which is able to rebuild a single server very fast

But you would still got the services for one customer running on one machine.

I wonder how the infrastructure looks like at big hosters.

What i've learned so far is, that the comfort of a web configuration interface which handles "all in one" takes u away the "specials" like load balancing for apache or mailservices. (its all packed on one system, very hard to seperate it again)

So, how would you treat the demand of high loads on websites when using virtualmin for your customers? You don't want to let one customers ressource usage negatively affect the other ones...

Sat, 01/03/2009 - 13:16
Maurizio1230

<div class='quote'>- Would you install 100 single Virtualmin Servers and put up to 100 customers on one server?
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Why not? maybe less than 250 customers (on 4gb ram, 1000gb hd, 100mbs connection)
Have you already start a hosting infrastructure?

If no, I'll give you my email. Our family is searching administrators ;)
We use ONLY our profit for buying more servers, domains, ips and I hope we will grow.

Our future targets are: becaming an icann registrar and buying a ripe membership.

I loves webhosting and the pleasure to see our (expert and not :)) team members working not only for customers but for our community (linux lovers love learning).
It's not our real work, but we like it.

**Improving team staff and entering in a big family is the actual solution to your questions.

Maurizio&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post edited by: Maurizio1230, at: 2009/01/03 13:18

Sun, 01/04/2009 - 00:42
worel

Hey Maurizio!

Thanks for that offer! Where are u guys located? Sounds italian! ;-)

Actually me and a guy i know for years are starting a company.

We r offering secure web services for small companies, and building highly available infrastructures for the bigger ones, if needed. (owned by the customers, no hosting there because they mostly got special needs)

At least we plan to go into this direction.

We don't ever want a customers homepage getting hacked again because the joomla version was old and so on! And we got the right medicine for that as we think. Just an example.

Thats a part of the things we do. Most of the time we're doing information security consulting for customers, helping them to stay compliant with PCI DSS, ISO27001 and others...

But my heart still beats for the technical security part and the tools u get for that. Hardening systems - i'm loving it! hehe

So if u want to exchange experience or stuff like that, just tell me.

Sun, 01/04/2009 - 03:55
Maurizio1230

yes, I am Italian :) Where are you from?
contact me at maurizio1230__hostinvent.com (__=@)
You are very kind. Maybe we can start a partnership.
I'll tell about our project.
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But my heart still beats for the technical security part and the tools u get for that. Hardening systems - i'm loving it! hehe
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absolutely the same :)

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