Authentic is Webmin/Usermin theme based on Bootstrap and Font Awesome that you just longed to get.

That looks great! I haven't had a chance to poke at it yet, but it looks really promising (I'm in the midst of a Bootstrap theme for Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin, as well). Is yours acting as a single-page application, or is it loading everything on every page view? (And, are you keeping the framed layout? That was the biggest source of trouble for me, so far; making sure links continue to work when the path never changes from / )

I stickied your post, so that more people will see it. You've done very nice work!

Haha! That's looking amazing, Ilia! I'm gonna download it and play with it tonight. If you'd like a developer license for Virtualmin Professional and Cloudmin Professional, so you can see the additional menus and such in those (I don't believe they will need any code changes, though), let me know, and we'll get them issued.

You're working so much faster than I am on this problem, I'm gonna have to work hard on my theme to catch up!

And, sorry for the slow reply. Been a busy week with the bash exploit, and moving stuff to a new server.

If you have further Perl or Webmin API questions, I'll be happy to try to answer (and if I don't know, I can get Jamie over into this thread quick-like).

Just tried it out. This is really great work! I'm sending a donation your way via your PayPal. We'd love to see you keep working on this.

Also, I've got a few suggestions, for things I'd figured out how to make look nice in a Bootstrappy kinda way that also work with the responsive design (like icon-based buttons on the Webmin Configuration page, for example, which looks a little weird in your theme with just a row of links). I'll spend some time looking over the code and send you a diff so you can try it out. Whether you choose to go that route, or do something else with that kind of icon table index page, is up to you, of course. But, do feel free to use any code from any of the themes I've worked on, in any way you like.

Also, really cool work on the buttons; I like that you have various colors of buttons in some locations (green for "start", etc.). That's really classy looking, and something I've been planning to work on. We're planning to add some hints to the ui-lib functions, so the CSS can be set appropriately for that, but your solution seems to be part of the way there without those hints, so that's cool!

Hi Illa, great job, the theme looks really promising. However, I am having issues with Virtualmin. First of all when I log in it takes me to Webmin instead of Virtualmin, then on the Virtualmin side I only have "Backup and Restore" showing up in the menu, and when I click on a domain to edit it it loads forever and nothing happens :( So had to revert to Virtualmin Framed theme... Is there anything I need to configure to make it work properly?

I have installed it. It is great, thanks for this theme

Hello, we (all, I think, the entire Virtualmin community) are so glad you and the *min team are working on refreshing the panels themes. Congrats and just wanted to tell all those themes are looking awesome!

Ilia, do you think is it safe for us to use it with webmin&virtualmin&usermin&cloudmin in a production environment? Can you somehow notify us when you think it is? Your development rate is rather fast paced (pls pls keep it up!) and your versioning scheme is somehow not talking by itself. What do you think is this a beta, a RC or a final (there isn't such things as final in design, but still, from a technical point of view)? And please don't forget us, the Firefox users.

Everybody: can one have any problems, security ones, via some themes? I don't really know how the theme system functions so I am simply asking, nothing else.

Thank you for your effort, everything is looking great.

Uuu, so this is becoming somewhat of an "endorsed theme/approved by Virtualmin"! Glad to see the developers working with members of the community as always; also good thinking guys keeping the 2 separate (functions/internals and design/themes), as it is done in every (mostly web) good apps. And Virtual/Cloud/Webmin surely is one hell of a software, I can barely imagine the amount of work gone into it...

After this issue is solved I think it is as good as an Release Candidate. And I will surely throw it to my production servers.

I installed 6.4 on my secondary webmin only DNS server. It looks better than in the screenshots! And it's very snappy also. Oh, and a nice loader :)

If you would consider it, and have the time, priorities aside, maybe you could ad some glyphicons which are easier to add, especially where people are used to see icons; but I know it will take lots of time, with so many options.

Maybe icons it's too much as it is such a clean design. But glyphs > go for them.

Another suggestion: you have a nice menu for shortcuts in the upper left, is this editable somehow? Or can you add the (so hated by me, but necessary) File Manager?

Will also report on GH the bugs I will find, if any.

Good job!

Hi Ilia, I like your theme very much. I am using it few days and I appreciate your professional work. Theme has beautiful and clean design and also high usability (almost like the old theme). Also responsive design is good. Please keep improving this theme. I will keep testing.

Thank you for introducing the File Manager > Quick Menu in the latest vs! And I see that you linked here from GitHub so I guess it's ok to report the problems/whishes here. So:

1. Maybe important: During the package updates can you somehow hide the loader and present the old Webmin/Virtual/Cloud info? It is weird for people not to know what is happening during that critical process. I mean... the system might as well freeze.

2. Cloudmin information missing in System Information (first page) and... no Cloudmin at all (doesn't it support it maybe?) and statistics (the graphs) missing, but I recall you wrote something/somwhere about this last one...

3. In the quick menu > Change language and theme I think we can live without it because: people rarely use it (once); it takes space and there are more important options; who would want to switch from Authentic :) ?

4. Where one has multiple columns, with info, for example in /?virtualmin, the order icons overlap the names of the column even if there is planty of space on the screen. Maybe that exact table should be more "generous" on big resolutions.

5. Cosmetical issue: when in mobile, in certain areas the action buttons do not stack, they are outside the tables, and scrollbar appeares. Try the Networking > Linux Firewall for example.

6. Cosmetical Issue: when in certain areas, the blue buttons bellow and out of the table (div class panel panel-default I think) it's cca 5px to the right, not alligned to the right margin of the table. Try Hardware > Edit Disk Partitions > the Return to Disk list button

7. Cosmetical issue: mentioned Hardware > Edit Disk Partitions because the second Add logical partition button is in fact a link not the same class like the other button(s). I saw this at least 2 more times but right now I don't remember where, usually when in Webmin we have something like:

info---------------------------------

button | button | button

some other info/table------

button | button | button

8. We (I) used to have nice personalized logos, for Webmin/Virtualmin and Usermin authentication page, and also inside the panels after logging in, left-upper corner, individualized per server and so on. You know, that our clients can enjoy (not) :) or at least remember our company. How do we add those?

9. Important: In Usermin, no WYWIWYG editor in HTML mode.

   Cosmetical/Usability: Also the To: Cc: and Bcc: fields are huge. The Bcc: field is off to the right by 20px. BTW in Usermin IS necessary to leave the Change Language and Theme stuff in the Quick menu, due to the amount of users. And it has the same (minor) probs: the blue button is off, the table (for example when you read an email is small on bigger screens).

   Cosmetical: The two icons (Find email with the same sender and Create filter by sender) when you read an email, for the Mail Headers > From/To/Date/Subject, are all in different sized cells. Maybe the best dimension is the smalles one (To). Can you break Usermins ordering and put the date first, and all the tables will come down nicely one after the other?

10. Important: If a session expires, the left menu doesn't dissappear, leaving info visibile to unathorized dudes; this happens everywhere.

11. I guess you already addressed this problem: the Virtualmin default landing page is uber ok in terms of layout, condensed info etc. Maybe the best one. But Authentic doesn't even remotely look like it, no dropdown for domains and stuff. I think this was the issue that the Virtualmin team (Joe and Jamie) must fix?

PS do you need this level of feedback right now (cosmetical stuff) or are you just in a hunting-big-bugs-phase?

@Ilia: "I can promise that I will try/do all that you offer as I find your remarks/suggestions important!" thank you, in the name of all Virtualmin users.

@Ilia: "Please go to my website, write me an email with all suggestions you posted here, so I can keep it on my desktop for future development." Done! BTW, for the record his website is https://rostovtsev.ru/

@Joe&Ilia: "I've issued a Cloudmin Professional license for you" such nice guys!

@Joe: "I kinda lean toward being able to make it impossible to change themes for users" of course but only for the deprecated/dangerous themes, which should only be removed; I hope the option will still be there since you are offering (the new future) themes exactly for this purpose. Let 'em be free, as free as the admins think they should :) The current behaviour is fine in my opinion

@Ilia "And about the load - you can dismiss the loader by clicking on it with your right mouse button two times!!" EHrmm, OK, didn't know that :)

Ilia I will roll for good your theme in Usermin as soon as you fix maybe the two most important bugs: the expire session one and the missing WYSIWYG editor for HTML mode.

The other themes are OK, I don't think it's a bug in Webmin/Virtualmin, only in Authentic: in the default theme when the sessions expire you are completely logged out and presented with only the authentication fields, without the left menu frame.

I found a few more issues Ilia:

-Maybe important: the File Manager, don't know why is getting an even uglier look in Authentic. Clearly the panes are greyer, the icon theme is changed (looks lika a very old one, as I do recognize it), and the fonts are so small you can't read squat, even if in settings fonts are set large. Using openSUSE 13.1 x86_64, Iced Tea;

-Fingerprinting for free: In the login window the Webmin version is displayed - I don't think it is a good ideea to let everyone know what version someone uses. Imagine the scenario where the guy didn't patch his Webmin/Virtualmin for like 2 years.

-Cosmetical and more of a wish: Everything in Webmin and it's brothers is displayed making good use of a column arrangement of the icons. In Authentic it looks more like a list of links. You said you are considering using glyphs, that would be awesome. Please don't forget also to rearrange somehow the elements in page so you can minimise the scroll and avoid a somehow a tiresome look, which are emphasized by the fact that your theme is using higher line-height and ample spaces, for nice clean look.

Thanks. Ah, the guys rolled some new updates to the panels, with a new API!