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Any update on this?
I am also interested on Debian.
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Hey guys,
We're working on it as fast as possible. It is scheduled for inclusion in Early Adopter release 3 (EA2 is the upcoming release, and is coming any day now...EA3 will come a week or two after EA2).
Debian will be a first-tier supported Operating System for Virtualmin Professional--the installer just doesn't work on Debian yet and we haven't built Debian packages yet. We have chosen to provide native packages for every first-tier OS, which makes the initial packaging and installer work much more time-consuming than if we distributed a big ball of crap installer (like some products in this space). It was made clear to us very early on by customers that there was a very strong desire for a native-friendly installation process. We've taken that to extremes, but the end result is very nice. To make this assertion more concrete:
On Fedora and CentOS, we install everything via yum, and on SuSE we provide a yast software repository (RHEL is a bit of an odd duck because we can't reasonably provide an up2date repo, so we install deps with up2date and then use yum to manage our software). Likewise we will provide Mandrake users a urpmi repo, and Debian users an apt-get repo. FreeBSD will install via ports, and Gentoo will use ebuilds (though ports and portage are not currently flexible enough for us to use it for automatic updates, as far as I can tell so far). All of this native packaging takes a ridiculous amount of time, and I'm automating as much as possible as I go--so some things that would only take an hour to do once, I'm taking ten hours to automate so that next time I have to do it it will only take ten minutes.
Anyway, that's just me belly-aching. The short answer is that debian will be supported as soon as possible. Probably not more than two weeks from now.
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Hi Joe,
<BlockQuote>"(RHEL is a bit of an odd duck because we can't reasonably provide an up2date repo, so we install deps with up2date and then use yum to manage our software)"</BlockQuote>
You may be aware of this already, but just FYI, up2date supports yum repositories quite nicely. So, if users want to continue using up2date tools with your yum repository, they can. Just add it to /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources.
Alan
Hey Alan,
Yeah, I'm aware of the support, and it was my plan to use it. However, it is incomplete in that it doesn't support password-protected repositories, which we use for our components. I've had a bug open with Red Hat about it for a couple of months. I could provide a patch as I've actually done that exact same thing in yum years ago when they switched from urllib to urlib2 and didn't bring password support through the change...but I fear RH might not be interested in including it. Once I've wrapped up all of the installers for all platforms, I will make a patch and submit it anyway--at least then I'll know I've done all I can do to resolve the problem and make Red Hat Enterprise work in the same (nice) way as Fedora and CentOS and SuSE and Mandrake and Debian.
I've even talked to actual humans from Red Hat about it when they were here in Austin for a developer presentation...and their answer was "use RHN Proxy", and I said "But, RHN Proxy is for internal users, not external customers", and they said, "Hmmm....that's interesting. Somebody else wants to sell software and distribute it via up2date? How weird." And I said, "Ummm, yeah, you just gave us a presentation that was encouraging third party developers to write software for Red Hat. So what can I buy from Red Hat or build to provide my software via up2date?" And they said, "Well...ummm...there is something called current, but I don't know anything about it, and maybe it does something like up2date. Or something." And I said, "Yep, I've been there, done that, it doesn't work (well)." And they said, "How about RHN Proxy?" And so on...It wasn't very encouraging with regard to Red Hats support of third party developers. They were very nice, but they made it clear that only Red Hat gets to distribute software via up2date with all of the features of up2date. I'd be happy to pay them for a product that would do what I need, but they just aren't offering. But maybe I'm being too hard on them. If only that bug hadn't been sitting their untouched for two months, I might be more forgiving... ;-)
Someday, I'm sure it will get fixed, and I'll convert the installer to using it. Until then, I work around it as best I can.
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hello,
is-it possible to install virtualmin pro on debian and which package must i choose in the shop?
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