Having to rebuild a clients hosting server. It is really a mess. But when I create a backup for each virtual server, the files are owned by root but only have rw-r--r-- (0644) permission so they can't be copied, deleted or anything. Perhaps we waited too long to get him a new machine. This puts us in a real fix now with a new server standing by and no way to move the files off. The permission are set that way with Virtualmin File Manger or a command line, does not matter. Any thoughts on this mess?